SEE SAW

Piece, 2026. A reverse podcast in three Objects: the listing, the shared notes, and what happened after the interview.

A podcast you will never hear, about what independence means when technology can do almost anything for us, told entirely through what happens off air.

About the Piece

SEE SAW is a podcast presented by two blind women who agree on rather less than you might expect. You will never hear an episode. It is always off screen. What you get instead is everything around it: the listing, the emails, the invitations, the arguments about how to handle a guest.

It is a reverse podcast: a making-of told from the outside in. When Ellie Seeley and Sam Sawyer want to know how a Blind Ant work was made, they ask Charlotte Joanne, and they don't take the first answer.

Their first guest is the woman who turned Come and Get Me into a graphic novel. The making-of, in the end, is the work.

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